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  • Should I start over? We're at Fedora 16, VB 2.2, LMS 7.7

    We own an older a Small Green Computer that hasn't been updated in quite a while. The current system is: Fedora 16, VB 2.2, LMS 7.7. I'm wondering what is the easiest path to get up to date?

    To move to VB 2.4 we need at least Fedora 23. VB 2.4 is needed for the latest version of LMS 8.2. I've made a full backup of our music. I've read on the Fedora website that upgrading from Fedora 16 is complicated. Would it be easier to just format the hard drive and reinstall everything?

    To start over would it be simplest to:
    1. Format the hard drive in the Small Green Computer
    2. Install the Fedora Image.iso, from f23-base.iso from a CD.
    3 Install VB 2.4, from vortexbox23-recovery.iso from a CD.
    4. Install LMS 8.2 from LMS Download.

    Also, what is the md5sum file for?

    Thanks for your help.

  • #2
    Your plan would be the easiest. Not needed to format the HD first, as the image will wipe out everything on the HD anyhow. The md5Sum is just a check sum to make sure that the image you download is identical to the hosted image (nothing got corrupted in the download). google md5sum to find a program that can read your downloaded image file and give you the md5sum. You can then compare that to the reported value. I don't usually bother doing this, because if a download is corrupted it typically won't work anyhow.....

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    • #3
      garym , thanks for the support. One more question. The current version of Fefora is 34. Should I install Fedora 34 or look for an old install of Fedora 23?

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      • #4
        When you install the latest iso for Vortexbox, it will include the appropriate fedora as well automatically. (It's not very recent Fedora, but it will work fine). p.s. I've moved on from vortexbox, to using an Rasberry Pi 4B running piCorePlayer as the operating system. Runs LMS very well and can also serve as a player. The entire thing is the size of a pack of cigarettes not counting the attached small USB drive and very low power.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by garym View Post
          When you install the latest iso for Vortexbox, it will include the appropriate fedora as well automatically. (It's not very recent Fedora, but it will work fine). p.s. I've moved on from vortexbox, to using an Rasberry Pi 4B running piCorePlayer as the operating system. Runs LMS very well and can also serve as a player. The entire thing is the size of a pack of cigarettes not counting the attached small USB drive and very low power.
          garym, that's really interesting. We use piCorePlayers to distribute the music around the house from our VortexBox to our amplifiers. I'm upgrading the VortexBox because it doesn't support the latest LMS. The only reason I'm trying to upgrade the VortexBox software is because it does a nice job of ripping CDs and organizing the files.

          My other option is to just upgrade the OS on the Little Green Computer, and install LMS on that. Totally ignoring VB. Is that what you've done with the Rasbery Pi?

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          • #6
            So really all I have to do is:
            1. Create a USB image of the VortexBox 2.4, using http://iso.vortexbox.org/vortexbox24...e-20151125.zip
            2. Follow the installation instructions for VB 2.4 found here, https://wiki.vortexbox.org/vortexbox...n_instructions
            3. Import my music from my back up USB. From what I've read on FAQ, Connecting to a SMB files share from Windows, I've found this instructions https://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1037477/

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            • #7
              Originally posted by RobotsEatDoughnuts View Post
              My other option is to just upgrade the OS on the Little Green Computer, and install LMS on that. Totally ignoring VB. Is that what you've done with the Rasbery Pi?
              Yes, I no longer use my little green computer hardware or vortexbox at all. I have LMS installed on my rPi4B with a 4TB USB drive connected to the rPi holding my music.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by RobotsEatDoughnuts View Post
                So really all I have to do is:
                1. Create a USB image of the VortexBox 2.4, using http://iso.vortexbox.org/vortexbox24...e-20151125.zip
                2. Follow the installation instructions for VB 2.4 found here, https://wiki.vortexbox.org/vortexbox...n_instructions
                3. Import my music from my back up USB. From what I've read on FAQ, Connecting to a SMB files share from Windows, I've found this instructions https://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1037477/
                correct. steps 1 and 2. And step 3 if you want to be able to transfer files back and forth to the vortexbox from your windows computer.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by garym View Post

                  Yes, I no longer use my little green computer hardware or vortexbox at all. I have LMS installed on my rPi4B with a 4TB USB drive connected to the rPi holding my music.
                  I may give that a try after I get this problem solved. I need an update so that I can listen to NPR from the LMS. They changed something and it doesn't work any more. My friend has the latest LMS, and he can play NPR. Funny.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by garym View Post

                    correct. steps 1 and 2. And step 3 if you want to be able to transfer files back and forth to the vortexbox from your windows computer.
                    Thanks for the advice. Now that I've read all of the install pages several times it is making sense.

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                    • #11
                      Hey garym I installed the 2.4 image on my USB, I made the USB bootable: /utils/winXX. Right click makebootXX.bat and select run as administrator. I booted my Small Green Computer from the USB and ran the install program (I had to select the boot from USB option using the F7 key while the SGC started up). The install process was very active. In the middle it asked me if I was sure, y/n twice. I said yes both times. It ran some more and stopped on a screen that asked if I wanted to: Power Off, Reboot, Enter Command Line Prompts, Start Over (image repository /hom). I've try all of these options. At the command line I tried to enter the command: dnf -y update, but the response is: "you must be a supper user". Then I'm locked out from any commands to cancel. If I just reboot the computer, it partially loads but I never get a command line. I am able to select VortexBox from my browser and see that I now have VB 2.4.

                      Any ideas on what I can do to complete the install? Right now I think it's broken.

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                      • #12
                        sorry, no clue.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by RobotsEatDoughnuts View Post

                          I may give that a try after I get this problem solved. I need an update so that I can listen to NPR from the LMS. They changed something and it doesn't work any more. My friend has the latest LMS, and he can play NPR. Funny.
                          maybe that time is now. As you can tell from how dead this forum is, vortexbox is not that active any more. For LMS on rPi, see:
                          https://docs.picoreplayer.org/

                          Active forum help here:
                          https://forums.slimdevices.com/showt...oreplayer+89.0

                          Short thread on getting started with rPi and piCoreplayer.
                          Worth reviewing:
                          https://forums.slimdevices.com/showt...ew+user+picore
                          Last edited by garym; 10-17-2021, 09:57 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Looks like I'll be starting over. Thanks for your help, garym

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                            • #15
                              p.s. Any reader of this thread should not interpret my comments as anti-Vortexbox. Vortexbox and Small Green Computer have been fantastic resources. I've bought 5 or 6 hardware systems from Small Green Computers over the years, 3 of them custom built (one still in use as a Roon Labs server). Great work, great service from Andrew, and vortexbox as a freeware OS was way, way ahead of its time. If one wants a turn key streamer/ripper a Small Green Computer appliance should be considered. These days, I'd suggest one of their newer systems that can handle LMS, Roon Labs, and others systems. For example:

                              https://www.smallgreencomputer.com/c...sporter-i7-cdr
                              https://www.smallgreencomputer.com/c...transporter-i5

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